I think it was introduced in the 2nd Ed. I know it was certainly in in Codex: Angels of Death. It angered many DA players that it was excluded from the "new" dex and even more so when it became an upgrade for Asartes players. Ok, tantrum over. FW, at least the way I see it, is GW's ultimate hobbyist's workshop. Where they can invent without the limitations of the consumer market. We'd have never had the plastic baneblade with all it's options had it not been for FW's resin casts and experimental rules.
I got to say I love the Forge World products. I have two Tyranid Hierodules back when 3rd ed was out. I still have yet to find a player who would let me use them. Even knowing that I would not be able to use them I still would buy them again, they are just cool.
The real problem with Forge World stuff is access to rules. If the rules were more accessible more people would buy and use Forge World products. I think it all comes down to the attitude of the player. Why are you in the hobby, what keeps you here? For me it has always been able great looking models first and then game play second. Often times I will start an army just to use X model before I ever buy a codex or look at an army list or special rules.
FW has some beautiful models so naturally I am a regular purchaser and try to fit something cool from FW into all the armies I build and paint. I expect as we continue into 5th seeing this as a trend more and more. Also forge world has been known to release models to fill gaps left in the GW release lines.
The Warboss on Bike model is the first to come to mind in this category. Whether you purchase FW or not is really up to you. Yes the prices are high, the shipping expensive, and the assembly process more complex, but in the long run I think the results, which can vastly out shine even some of the nicest GW models, is well worth the time, money, and effort. Ron, I know we have never met in person, at least not yet.
If you ever want to through down and try out some the that FW stuff, I would have no problem with that. I'm sure a good amount of players out there, at least the ones that do not take the game overly seriously would be more then happy to let you use the FW stuff if you ask first.
Bring that stuff up to GW Sugarland some time, I can't think of anyone that would say no that plays there. You can see the conversion here. What's cool about this is that it was so relatively cheap. So, for less than the cost of a regular dreadnought box and some extra work I re produced the Mortis or, Rifleman as I put it. Forge World would have been easier and perhaps a bit cleaner, but this was inexpensive enough for anyone to afford.
Frankly, that is my knock on Forge World in general -- great stuff that is usually too pricey to be worth it. If those prices were in Dollars rather than Pounds I would be purchasing stuff of their website on a weekly basis. Since they are not, however, in reality I've gotten only a few things from them. As it stands now it's hard to justify spending the money. I had this discussion in a german forum whrer i am a regular.
It was about using the FW stuff in regular games, not the superheavies and flyers just things like this mortis dread. After my experience the most players will let u play this dread if u ask before the game and show them the rules. Cost's the thing, for me. On the one hand, stuff that's in the codex already can be done just fine; if I were going to go Chaos Marines I'd be tempted to go Khorne from those amazing conversion kits. On the other hand, the stuff that's got Forge World rules?
While it's neat, it's not necessarily something you'd get to use all the time. On the other hand, some of the larger toys are a bit 'eh'.
I think Titans are neat, but on my end I don't play enough Apocalypse to really get the mileage out of them. I'd not necessarily object to playing the stuff, but I'd like to figure out whether or not something's that balanced. Might be interesting, but I think a lot of the larger stuff simply belongs in Apocalypse for fun. Well I am going to have to say that you all have very good points on all this. I for one used FW on a regular basis regardless of the game or opponent.
They were still kitted out with the codex options, they just had cooler looks to them. But this maybe a difference of trying to use FW models with alternate rules over using FW models with codex rules too. I know that it is not that long of a drive for you and if you do it right you can get a group together and all go up there to play for a day. They have fantastic tables and a nice staff well they did when I was up there last.
That just makes me sad, The only places I know of to get FW kits in Australia is: 1 Forgeworld 2 Ebay shudder 3 Back2Basix range which is why we get groups orders together an go direct to the source. At least they replace missing or badly cast parts. Forge World stuff is used often around here, almost every week in our leagues.
The general rule is: bring the rule book with you for what you are using if it something not covered in your codex. You know, there's one thing we all missed here: Quad-autocannon dreadnoughts are perfectly Codex-legal for fifth-ed Space Marines. If you've got a relevant tip, trick or link, make sure to include it in your comment for the rest of us to check out!
The trouble with Forge World in regular games. For those who don't know, this is a Mortis pattern Dreadnought from Forge World. I didn't know that until I started reading a little more of the background about Dark Angels and I found this guy mentioned. Two things your average 40k player does NOT have. I really want to use this pattern dreadnought but I'm almost certain that opponents will frown upon it.
Not because it's overpowered or underpriced in points but because it's an unknown. Locally, players around here just don't use Forge World stuff in regular games. And I'm not talking about Apocalypse, thats different, you buy the expansion book, you get data the sheets. I'm talking about regular games of 40k with regular FOC's and such. Forge World is just not that accessable. Plain and simple. I suspect that it's like this in alot of places.
I envy those areas where it's common and players can use it without a second thought. I want to try and model some Dreadnought autocannons or maybe even drop the money for the real ones which would be my very first FW purchase but for what?
So they can sit on my desk at home and never get used? If you've got any questions about something in this post, shoot me a comment and I'll be glad to answer. Make sure to share your hobby tips and thoughts in the comments below! Unknown October 3, at PM. Anonymous October 3, at PM. Version Time Downloads Downloads MD5: 83bcfe3ba22cef4df3ba9d52b SHA1: e8c98f5eb7e4c35b8defebdb0eb1e4. MD5: adb65abd0ceba3adb43 SHA1: a3b6dee9cee57b0bc0c2a3ff MD5: 0efab3a5deda6dc5bf SHA1: 1beb21cfdc9af2decdecfcf.
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